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Pantokrator
16-02-2011, 09:56
bei ebay England werden Arcade Collections mit über 5000 Spielen verkauft. Es wird sogar extra als MAME Arcade beworben. Ist der Verkauf ohne die entsprechenden PCBs in England erlaubt?

prc69
16-02-2011, 10:35
Soll das ne ernst gemeinte Frage sein???? Copyright ist Copyright ... nein, das ist nicht erlaubt. Wie und ob das in manchen Ländern verfolgt wird ist eine andere Frage, allein die Behandlung durch eBay unterscheidet sich signifikant.

PS: In den Lizenzbedingungen von Mame und den meisten anderen Emulatoren steht ganz klar, dass diese ohne Ausdrückliche Genehmigung gar nicht verkauft werden dürfen, schon gar nicht in Verbindung mit ROMs. Bei Mame ist sogar der Einsatz im kommerziellen Bereich verboten, da halten sich aber hier in D auch nicht alle dran ... Burn in hell, kann ich da nur sagen ... :evil:

prc69
16-02-2011, 10:42
Hier mal die Q&As von Mame, keine Ahnung, warum solche Fragen wie deine überhaupt gestellt werden, wo die Lage doch so klar ist ... Ich glaube das Unrechtsbewusstsein hört bei Software generell auf. Scheinbar ist allgemein das Gefühl, dass alles was umsonst ist, auch beliebig verwurstet werden darf sehr verbreitet ...


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Laschek
16-02-2011, 11:33
Das bringt die Emulator-Gemeinde in Verruf.

Ich frag mich da immer wieviele von denen die bei solchen Angeboten mit dem Finger zeigen selber das Copyright treten indem sie Roms horten die sie zwar nicht gekauft aber illegal runtergeladen haben...

EDIT: was'n hier grad passiert??? Da fehlen doch Beiträge?

speleo_de
16-02-2011, 11:33
Der Beitrag von prc69 sagt alles -> Das ist illegal.

Und .... Links auf ROMs sources sind hier nicht erlaubt.

Diverse Beiträge entfernt u.a. solche mit ROM links und Topic closed.